# Noob-ish Here Looking For Advice **URL:** \ **Category:** Support\ **Created:** [May 1, 2020, 1:05am UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/noob-ish-here-looking-for-advice/13727 "2020-05-01T01:05:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![f1ctional](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.pimoroni.com/f1ctional/32/4216_2.png) [@f1ctional](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/f1ctional)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2020, 1:05am UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/noob-ish-here-looking-for-advice/13727/1 "2020-05-01T01:05:55Z")
I am working on a project I got off eBay… I have built a kit before, but this setup seems a little older? I cannot get the sound or controllers to work right so not sure if I am doing something wrong that is a easy fix, or do I need to replace the pcb with the newer x ? If so, is that all I need and will the stick and buttons work for the newer board. (it has 2 on each side and then the standard 6 on top and 2 in front) ![20200430_210124](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pimoroni/original/2X/c/c39ea390ef762da120f676ebe24a1fa1fb21ecba.jpeg) ![20200430_210130](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pimoroni/original/2X/1/1ee649b374d277918ef4793a1329a43c1b82d7dc.jpeg) ![20200430_210139](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pimoroni/original/2X/b/b78967ca7c38ba0fa74843462dea1b470aad1066.jpeg) -Mark ---
**Author:** ![alphanumeric](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.pimoroni.com/alphanumeric/32/2729_2.png) [@alphanumeric](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/alphanumeric)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2020, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/noob-ish-here-looking-for-advice/13727/2 "2020-05-01T10:10:31Z")
Isn’t that Picade Hat suppossed to plug into the Pi’s GPIO header? Does it have a GPIO header on the bottom? ---
**Author:** ![f1ctional](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.pimoroni.com/f1ctional/32/4216_2.png) [@f1ctional](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/f1ctional)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2020, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/noob-ish-here-looking-for-advice/13727/3 "2020-05-01T10:48:35Z")
Uncertain to be honest, from what I understand the red cable gets plugged into the pie and that was it? I know the kit version it mounts on top of the Pi. The Picade pcb is affixed to the cabinet bottom in that spot when I got it, and the person I got it from said to just plug the pi into it. This unit has a 12" screen and just trying to get it running normally or replace it if need be with the XHat using the existing wiring. ---
**Author:** ![alphanumeric](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.pimoroni.com/alphanumeric/32/2729_2.png) [@alphanumeric](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/alphanumeric)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2020, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/noob-ish-here-looking-for-advice/13727/4 "2020-05-01T10:55:26Z")
I’d have a look see, to see if it has a GPIO connector on the bottom side. This one, and the new Picade X have it. [https://learn.pimoroni.com/tutorial/sandyj/getting-started-with-picade-hat](https://learn.pimoroni.com/tutorial/sandyj/getting-started-with-picade-hat) ---
**Author:** ![f1ctional](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.pimoroni.com/f1ctional/32/4216_2.png) [@f1ctional](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/f1ctional)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2020, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/noob-ish-here-looking-for-advice/13727/5 "2020-05-01T11:02:51Z")
It is this model one. Not sure. ![714ejzZhKRL.AC_SX679](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pimoroni/original/2X/0/04f025809ce0641ee861c34cb9436ce6d40ad4ff.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![alphanumeric](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.pimoroni.com/alphanumeric/32/2729_2.png) [@alphanumeric](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/alphanumeric)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2020, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/noob-ish-here-looking-for-advice/13727/6 "2020-05-01T11:21:07Z")
That I don’t know? It’s not the Model X for sure, and it doesn’t look like the one in the link I posted? Really really early one I guess? It may do it all via USB? If there is no GPIO header on the bottom side then it for sure only uses USB. Maybe that was the kick starter one? If so what you need as far as software is here > **[pimoroni/picade](https://github.com/pimoroni/picade)** > > All Picade related stuff. Contribute to pimoroni/picade development by creating an account on GitHub. ---
**Author:** ![f1ctional](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.pimoroni.com/f1ctional/32/4216_2.png) [@f1ctional](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/f1ctional)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2020, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/noob-ish-here-looking-for-advice/13727/7 "2020-05-01T12:44:31Z")
Is it worth it to try to get it working? I have tried, but maybe doing the installs incorrectly. If I can use the existing wiring with the newer picade x hat, maybe I should get that instead? ---
**Author:** ![alphanumeric](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.pimoroni.com/alphanumeric/32/2729_2.png) [@alphanumeric](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/alphanumeric)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2020, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/noob-ish-here-looking-for-advice/13727/8 "2020-05-01T13:38:39Z")
The New Picade X should work with what you have now. You may want to get one these too though. > **[Picade Wiring Loom v2 – Pimoroni Store](https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/picade-wiring-loom-v2)** > > This wiring loom has all the cables and connectors you'll need to connect a joystick, arcade buttons, and illuminated button to Picade X HAT. It's ideal for DIY arcade cabinet builds. ---
**Author:** ![f1ctional](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.pimoroni.com/f1ctional/32/4216_2.png) [@f1ctional](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/f1ctional)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2020, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/noob-ish-here-looking-for-advice/13727/9 "2020-05-01T14:31:49Z")
Awesome. Thanks very much for your help. I am going to order those 2 things now and hopefully it should work out nicely. -M ---
**Author:** ![Shoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@Shoe](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/Shoe)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2020, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/noob-ish-here-looking-for-advice/13727/10 "2020-05-01T19:16:41Z")
> [@alphanumeric](#): > > That I don’t know? It’s not the Model X for sure, and it doesn’t look like the one in the link I posted? Really really early one I guess? If I remember right that was one of the post-Kickstarter Pimoroni shop boards. There was a [red one](https://www.adafruit.com/product/2708) as well for some reason. ---
**Author:** ![alphanumeric](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.pimoroni.com/alphanumeric/32/2729_2.png) [@alphanumeric](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/alphanumeric)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2020, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/noob-ish-here-looking-for-advice/13727/11 "2020-05-01T19:22:25Z")
@Shoe , no GPIO header on that one, it must do it all as a HID device via USB. Like this does > **[Player X USB Games Controller PCB – Pimoroni Store](https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/player-x-usb-games-controller-pcb)** > > Player X has entered the game! Add some arcade buttons (up to twelve) and a joystick and you've got your own homebrew USB games controller. BAZINGA! ---
**Author:** ![Shoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@Shoe](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/Shoe)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2020, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/noob-ish-here-looking-for-advice/13727/12 "2020-05-01T19:27:47Z")
Yup, as the Adafruit page says, it acts just like a keyboard. If the button mapping and audio aren’t working it sounds like the board isn’t in good shape. ---
**Author:** ![alphanumeric](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.pimoroni.com/alphanumeric/32/2729_2.png) [@alphanumeric](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/alphanumeric)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2020, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/noob-ish-here-looking-for-advice/13727/13 "2020-05-01T19:33:16Z")
I think I would try a different USB cable between it and the Pi.