# Phat DAC A-ok on Zero W, nothing from Zero 2

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**Created:** [June 11, 2022, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/phat-dac-a-ok-on-zero-w-nothing-from-zero-2/19677 "2022-06-11T21:09:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![jmsaltzman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/4bbf92/32.png) [@jmsaltzman](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/jmsaltzman)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2022, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/phat-dac-a-ok-on-zero-w-nothing-from-zero-2/19677/1 "2022-06-11T21:09:34Z")

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I’ve tried a few ways but can’t get it working on my Pi Zero 2. Starting with a fresh Raspberry Pi OS sd card, I’m able to run the install with:

> curl -sS [https://get.pimoroni.com/phatdac](https://get.pimoroni.com/phatdac) | bash

with no errors. On restart, running it again, I get audio out of the Zero W and none out of the Zero 2. I’m doing this all through ssh, and not touching the brand new system otherwise before the curl command. I wonder if there’s any gotcha or prerequisites I’m missing. Thanks in advance, any clues appreciated!

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**Author:** ![alphanumeric](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.pimoroni.com/alphanumeric/32/2729_2.png) [@alphanumeric](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/alphanumeric)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/phat-dac-a-ok-on-zero-w-nothing-from-zero-2/19677/2 "2022-06-12T07:48:11Z")

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Did you solder the header on the Zero 2 or buy it “with header”?

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**Author:** ![jmsaltzman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/4bbf92/32.png) [@jmsaltzman](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/jmsaltzman)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/phat-dac-a-ok-on-zero-w-nothing-from-zero-2/19677/3 "2022-06-12T12:40:07Z")

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I soldered them on myself, which I’ve always done for Zeros. Hmm… I’ll use an LED or something to check the gpio’s the hat is using…

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**Author:** ![alphanumeric](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.pimoroni.com/alphanumeric/32/2729_2.png) [@alphanumeric](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/alphanumeric)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/phat-dac-a-ok-on-zero-w-nothing-from-zero-2/19677/4 "2022-06-12T13:03:26Z")

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Can’t hurt to double check your soldering.  
[pHAT DAC at Raspberry Pi GPIO Pinout](https://pinout.xyz/pinout/phat_dac)

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**Author:** ![jmsaltzman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/4bbf92/32.png) [@jmsaltzman](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/jmsaltzman)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/phat-dac-a-ok-on-zero-w-nothing-from-zero-2/19677/5 "2022-06-12T20:50:25Z")

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… it hurt a little to find that GPIO 18 isn’t working!

I was hoping it was some “just run apt install gobbledygook and ur good” situation but… [sigh]…

I’ll investigate, likely I’ll incriminate myself in solder crimes…

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**Author:** ![jmsaltzman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/4bbf92/32.png) [@jmsaltzman](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/jmsaltzman)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/phat-dac-a-ok-on-zero-w-nothing-from-zero-2/19677/6 "2022-06-12T21:35:15Z")

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That was it-- the old “user error” [ahem]

Now getting my front lefts and front rights, thank you :)

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**Author:** ![alphanumeric](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.pimoroni.com/alphanumeric/32/2729_2.png) [@alphanumeric](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/alphanumeric)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/phat-dac-a-ok-on-zero-w-nothing-from-zero-2/19677/7 "2022-06-12T23:08:16Z")

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Good soldering is an acquired skill. And even then, mistakes can happen.  
Good thing is, for most of us, its usually an easy fix.  
Anyway, now you can move on and make use of it.

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**Author:** ![jmsaltzman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/4bbf92/32.png) [@jmsaltzman](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/jmsaltzman)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 12:39am UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/phat-dac-a-ok-on-zero-w-nothing-from-zero-2/19677/8 "2022-06-13T00:39:53Z")

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This particular zero 2 has had headers soldered on and off a few times… crusty… looks like the only bad joint, of course one of the six pins it needed :)

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**Author:** ![ahnlak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.pimoroni.com/ahnlak/32/5610_2.png) [@ahnlak](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/ahnlak)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 8:36am UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/phat-dac-a-ok-on-zero-w-nothing-from-zero-2/19677/9 "2022-06-13T08:36:03Z")

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I find the double row of pins on the zeros horrible to solder (which is why i only buy pre-soldered ones now!)

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**Author:** ![alphanumeric](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.pimoroni.com/alphanumeric/32/2729_2.png) [@alphanumeric](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/alphanumeric)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/phat-dac-a-ok-on-zero-w-nothing-from-zero-2/19677/10 "2022-06-13T10:29:12Z")

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For me, no header is an advantage. I sometimes put a 90 female on the back side. It lets me plug them into a pHat Stack directly skipping the ribbon cable.

The presoldered header is a nice option though, for those that want it.

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**Author:** ![jmsaltzman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/4bbf92/32.png) [@jmsaltzman](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/jmsaltzman)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/phat-dac-a-ok-on-zero-w-nothing-from-zero-2/19677/11 "2022-06-13T15:45:51Z")

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I never have much trouble soldering them, it’s the de-soldering that gets iffy. I admit I was careless when I could count on MicroCenter having fresh Pis for me for when/if I broke one of mine…:(
