# URGENT: do I have old or new Pibow coupe? **URL:** \ **Category:** Raspberry Pi\ **Created:** [February 6, 2015, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/urgent-do-i-have-old-or-new-pibow-coupe/341 "2015-02-06T07:33:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![twrackers](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.pimoroni.com/twrackers/32/136_2.png) [@twrackers](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/twrackers)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2015, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/urgent-do-i-have-old-or-new-pibow-coupe/341/1 "2015-02-06T07:33:38Z")
According to the web page for the Pibow Coupe, > Note: We’ve redesigned Pibow to be compatible > with both the Raspberry Pi 2 and B+. Due to changes in the layout of the > power circuitry on the Raspberry Pi 2 layer 3 has had to be revised - > older Pibows (one’s with a B+ label) will not work with Raspberry Pi 2! Where would I find this “B+ label” on a red Pibow Coupe I just recently bought? I bought the Pibow Coupe through a well-known US vendor within just the last two weeks, before the release of the Pi2. I now have a Pi2 on (back)order and wanted to put it into the Coupe, moving the B+ that’s in there now to a new Pibow Ninja (non-Coupe style), also on order. After reading the above piece (I wasn’t home at the time), I assumed the red Coupe I have is an “old” one since it had to be in the US vendor’s inventory for at least a few weeks, so as much as I didn’t want to, I ordered a new Coupe from the Pimoroni shop. Now I’m not sure that the Coupe I already have really is an old one. How can I tell for certain when I don’t yet have the Pi2 to fit inside it? The single picture on the Coupe web page looks just like mine, and I don’t see any sort of B+ label. If I already have the new design, I need to cancel quickly the order I just placed today. ---
**Author:** ![Lisa](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.pimoroni.com/lisa/32/34_2.png) [@Lisa](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/Lisa)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2015, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/urgent-do-i-have-old-or-new-pibow-coupe/341/2 "2015-02-06T08:23:39Z")
Hi - I’m only a muggle but I _think_ that if your coupe has three coloured layers it fits a Pi2, and if it has four coloured layers it only fits a B+ Hopefully a staff member can confirm? :) ---
**Author:** ![Lisa](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.pimoroni.com/lisa/32/34_2.png) [@Lisa](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/Lisa)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2015, 8:44am UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/urgent-do-i-have-old-or-new-pibow-coupe/341/3 "2015-02-06T08:44:12Z")
Hopefully this helps, packaging has a venn diagram on for the new Pi2/B+ (older style B+ only case in red for comparison) ![](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pimoroni/125/6877cceac30694ca.JPG) ---
**Author:** ![gadgetoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.pimoroni.com/gadgetoid/32/13_2.png) [@gadgetoid](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/gadgetoid)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2015, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/urgent-do-i-have-old-or-new-pibow-coupe/341/4 "2015-02-06T11:02:34Z")
Lisa is right- and to chime in, I’m certain that you have an old style Coupe and will need a new Pi 2 compatible one. ---
**Author:** ![twrackers](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.pimoroni.com/twrackers/32/136_2.png) [@twrackers](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/twrackers)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2015, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/urgent-do-i-have-old-or-new-pibow-coupe/341/5 "2015-02-06T13:12:17Z")
Oh THAT label… I know it was red, but so were the contents. I’ll have to dig through the trash bag here to find it, at least I haven’t emptied it out yet. ---
**Author:** ![twrackers](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.pimoroni.com/twrackers/32/136_2.png) [@twrackers](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/twrackers)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2015, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/urgent-do-i-have-old-or-new-pibow-coupe/341/6 "2015-02-06T14:12:46Z")
It’s confirmed, I found the wrapper and it clearly only says B+. ( ~~sigh~~ ) Looks like I’m going to end up with a leftover case unless I get another B+ in the future. Okay, case closed (pun intended). ---
**Author:** ![gadgetoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.pimoroni.com/gadgetoid/32/13_2.png) [@gadgetoid](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/gadgetoid)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2015, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/urgent-do-i-have-old-or-new-pibow-coupe/341/7 "2015-02-06T14:17:27Z")
Ahoy! Check your PMs! ---
**Author:** ![twrackers](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.pimoroni.com/twrackers/32/136_2.png) [@twrackers](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/twrackers)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2015, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/urgent-do-i-have-old-or-new-pibow-coupe/341/8 "2015-02-06T15:24:15Z")
So _IF_ one were to replace the offending layer in a B+ Coupe, then you’d have a Pi2-compatible case, but still with four color layers rather than three as pictured above? I could live with that. ---
**Author:** ![twrackers](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.pimoroni.com/twrackers/32/136_2.png) [@twrackers](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/twrackers)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2015, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/urgent-do-i-have-old-or-new-pibow-coupe/341/9 "2015-02-06T15:35:36Z")
Actually, I think I prefer the 2 clear + 4 color design anyway, which keeps the top of the GPIO pins from protruding so much above the top surface of the case. I notice the case screws in the picture are head down. Did I put mine in upside down? ---
**Author:** ![gadgetoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.pimoroni.com/gadgetoid/32/13_2.png) [@gadgetoid](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/gadgetoid)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2015, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/urgent-do-i-have-old-or-new-pibow-coupe/341/10 "2015-02-06T17:13:11Z")
You can put the screws in whichever way up you like! Most of mine are in head-up on Coupe cases, but I’ll often put them in heads down if I need to remove the top for some reason. ---
**Author:** ![aoakley](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.pimoroni.com/aoakley/32/40_2.png) [@aoakley](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/aoakley)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/urgent-do-i-have-old-or-new-pibow-coupe/341/11 "2015-02-09T09:40:22Z")
Anyone who wants a free replacement layer 3 to adapt a B+only case to a B+&2 case, can get them shipped free with any order. Just pop in a support request stating your order number, and colour. I got mine with an order for Lego layers last week, now my red Coupé case supports both Pi 2 and Lego. Thanks Pimoroniants for offering this, and sorting it out so quickly. ---
**Author:** ![twrackers](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.pimoroni.com/twrackers/32/136_2.png) [@twrackers](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/twrackers)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/urgent-do-i-have-old-or-new-pibow-coupe/341/12 "2015-02-09T11:46:00Z")
Is that layer 3 or the third layer (bottom layer is #0)? I’ll trust Pimoroni to know which one to send. Glad they made this an official process. ---
**Author:** ![aoakley](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.pimoroni.com/aoakley/32/40_2.png) [@aoakley](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/aoakley)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/urgent-do-i-have-old-or-new-pibow-coupe/341/13 "2015-02-09T12:05:15Z")
Yes, layers are counted from the bottom up, and are counted from zero. Layers 0 and 1 go underneath the circuitboard. Layer 2 wraps around the circuitboard. Layer 3 is the first layer on top of the circuitboard - this is the one which needs changing over, as it has bits which snake around the chips, and the chip placement is different on the 2B compared to the B+ . The new layer 3 fits _both_ the 2B and the B+ . The old layer 3 fits only the B+ . Thankfully, layer 1 is unaffected by the new RAM chip underneath the circuitboard on the 2B. ---
**Author:** ![aoakley](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forums.pimoroni.com/aoakley/32/40_2.png) [@aoakley](https://forums.pimoroni.com/u/aoakley)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.pimoroni.com/t/urgent-do-i-have-old-or-new-pibow-coupe/341/14 "2015-02-09T12:17:04Z")
The layers also have numerals etched on them. If you hold a B+ or 2B Pibow layer with the HDMI, audio and power side towards your chest, you should see numerals on the top left of each layer. I.e. on B+ and 2B Pibows, the layer numerals are diagonally opposite the ethernet network port. This is also the same for the 2014 non-plus B Coupé. For older pre-Coupé, non-plus 1B Pibows, the layer numerals are to the left of the HDMI port. Can’t see a numeral on the layer? You probably have the layer upside-down.